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World's First Double Arm Transplant: Man Gets Arms from Teen
mailonsunday.co.uk — Surgeons have performed the world ’s first double arm transplant. The 16-hour operation was carried out last Friday on a farm worker who lost both arms in an accident. The 54-year-old man was given the arms of a teenage boy who is believed to have died in a road crash.
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- nuentendu, on 08/01/2008, -1/+13This is a beautiful story.
- sanman, on 08/02/2008, -5/+15"doctor, for some reason, I often have the urge to... FAPFAPFAP"
- rhabd0mancer, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2"No fapping for 2 weeks after the surgery. After that, take it at your own pace."
- monkeymad2, on 08/02/2008, -0/+8wouldn't that be REALLY awkward after the surgery?
I mean, it's some other dead dude's friggin' hand! - Slade605, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Do you think there was any process of checking his criminal record and/or replacing his finger prints with the police?
- Darkaged, on 08/02/2008, -5/+3The story doesn't even mention if the donation was consensual and the teenager was only brain dead, not completely dead.
- stevealford, on 08/02/2008, -1/+4It would certainly suck if the kid regained neural activity or a medical advance found a way to revive his network...
- herschman321, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3I read in a different article about this same story. The teenager had just died.
- RaulMuadDib, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1The 54-year-old man was given the arms of a teenage boy who is believed to have died in a road crash.
We are not sure how he died either
- piesforyou, on 08/02/2008, -3/+2Beautiful? You call having double the number of arms you're supposed to have beautiful?
- flangepiece, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Works for Vishnu...
- harveywalbanger, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Now it will feel like someone else is doing it when he touches himself.
- sanman, on 08/02/2008, -5/+15"doctor, for some reason, I often have the urge to... FAPFAPFAP"
- hollyminkowski, on 08/01/2008, -1/+38In the near future robotic surgeons will be able to do even more remarkable things.
The heartbreak for the surgeon is that s/he knows what to do, but does not have the manipulative skill or speed to carry it out in time. (I have heard this lament from my father many times)
Robotic surgeons and nanotech devices will be able to act under the surgeons directions and perform miracles. Horribly damaged skin and internal tissues will be able to be rebuilt...it will be like magic when compared to what can be done today.- TripcodeMel, on 08/02/2008, -3/+6In the near future, we're just going to give people robot arms and they'll be rather pleased at the sudden ability to lift several times their own body weight and vault themselves around with built-in grappling hooks.
- BoonTobias, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1grappling beams?
tell me more - KingGorilla, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2Well if we give them robot arms and they carry huge amounts of weights wouldn't the arms fall off because though the arms can lift the weight the rest of the organic body can't :P
- BoonTobias, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1grappling beams?
- chillypacman, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5you're talking like this sort of stuff is right around the corner, it's probably decades away.
sci-fi is always just a little further away than we think it is.- flangepiece, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Tell me about it. I've only just worked out how to program my VCR.
- someology, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1except for things like cloning mammals, which I really never thought would happen in my lifetime.
- stklaw, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4What we are capable of doing right now is already like magic compared to a century ago.
- sotose, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Maybe,but they had REAL magic back then.
- dstz, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2"The heartbreak for the surgeon is that s/he knows what to do, but does not have the manipulative skill or speed to carry it out in time."
Or the patient just isn't rich or interesting enough.
- TripcodeMel, on 08/02/2008, -3/+6In the near future, we're just going to give people robot arms and they'll be rather pleased at the sudden ability to lift several times their own body weight and vault themselves around with built-in grappling hooks.
- Detry, on 08/01/2008, -2/+34Gives new meaning to "The Stranger"
- smitas, on 08/01/2008, -5/+1Even today people of this kind are there............... :)
- unknownsoldierX, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2People excepting donations? Dead teenagers donating limbs? What?
- ShellShock11, on 08/02/2008, -2/+31"High Five" to the doctor who pulled this off.
- AboveandBeyond, on 08/02/2008, -7/+1i see you wot did there...and you see what i did here.
- passedoutghost, on 08/03/2008, -1/+0I see you getting buried for a dumb meme.
- AboveandBeyond, on 08/02/2008, -7/+1i see you wot did there...and you see what i did here.
- rsHoratio, on 08/02/2008, -11/+4Dude....Let the "used arm" and masturbation jokes commence!
- BoonTobias, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1calm down, these jokes are armless
- amazinggod, on 08/02/2008, -20/+1
- disrupter, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1What a horrible video
- Pusod, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1why did you fall for his spam? don't you know any better?
- disrupter, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1What a horrible video
- magicmarc, on 08/02/2008, -4/+13METAL GEAR!?
- Inohavehalos, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3I see what you did there...
- Bith8654, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4Only if he develops a split personality of a teenage roadster.
- MasterGrief, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Hooray, crappy plot device!
- IceOfDiamonds, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4if you finished mgs4 youd realize the arm had nothing to do with his transformation
- MasterGrief, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Aw dookie, way to spoil it for me there buddy, I don't own a PS3 yet. :[
- LongBong, on 08/02/2008, -2/+2hahahahaha
- Djjcj, on 08/02/2008, -7/+1Doctor...Doctor.......I cant feel my legs.....
- RaulMuadDib, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1...that's cause you got no arms
- zeptobyte, on 08/02/2008, -5/+27"The 54-year-old man was given the arms of a teenage boy who is believed to have died in a road crash."
Believed to have died? BELIEVED to have died?- WoWhead90, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15
- estacado, on 08/02/2008, -1/+16It's not that hard to find out the identity of the donor. You can use his fingerprints to find out the identity.
- borez, on 08/02/2008, -0/+7Yes they do, I know this because my dad got in touch with the family of the girl he got his new heart from, just before he died, to say thanks for the extra years.
- tibe, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2@estacado who said the donor has prints on file? probably pretty unlikely.
- WoWhead90, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15
- leladax, on 08/02/2008, -0/+7that's incredible.
- estacado, on 08/02/2008, -6/+1After he gets use of them, on lonely nights, he'll be able to know what it feels like to have sex with a stranger.
- takeo1775, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1so bad its good...
- yairagat, on 08/02/2008, -2/+7Too bad they weren't bionic arms....JAX!
- leladax, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1I read on wikipedia they were able to do hand transplantation on babies.
Do transplanted limbs grow?- Nintendesert, on 08/02/2008, -1/+14No, he'll have baby hands forever!
- leladax, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1good point.
but what if those doctors were experimenting.
- leladax, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1good point.
- Nintendesert, on 08/02/2008, -1/+14No, he'll have baby hands forever!
- steveoco, on 08/02/2008, -0/+13I think a teen with the arms of a 54 year old would be just as interesting.
- Br3ach, on 08/02/2008, -0/+6Truly amazing what modern medicine can do, and it is really still in 2008 in its infant stages. I can only await the day that medicine can regrow our own organs and limbs from DNA, meaning no rejection.
I wish the best to him and his new arms. I can only imagine the mental implications however, being 35 years older than the transplanted arms, knowing someone young had to die first. I am sure it makes you reevaluate your beliefs a bit. - FUR10N, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3not that it isn't an amazing story, but I bet he looks really weird with the arms of a teenager
- Hincapie, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1they are nice looking arms, though!
- killacamry, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1i bet it looks even wierder with no arms
- kosmoss, on 08/02/2008, -1/+12I just wait for the brain transplant to be possible...
- AboveandBeyond, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3it is possible...have you not seen dr drake remore?
- aresef, on 08/02/2008, -6/+11The teen probably feels disarmed.
- leladax, on 08/02/2008, -0/+6it's so cheesy i'm gonna digg!
- borez, on 08/02/2008, -8/+3"He has been given the arms of a teenage boy who is believed to have died in a car crash"
Creepy- leladax, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5"Creepy"
Reality. - RaulMuadDib, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1"Give me back my arms" *ghost noises*
Reminds me of the Scary Stories series:
"Then after his wife passed away, he removed the ribbon from around her neck and her head fell off"
- leladax, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5"Creepy"
- Elliottx, on 08/02/2008, -2/+20I wonder if they'll posses him and start murdering people.
- Br3ach, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Or have an immense craving for beer...
- DarkDx, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Or steal a secret military bi-pedal weapon...
- shithitinthefan, on 08/02/2008, -3/+6Stephen King is not amused.
- egoideal, on 08/02/2008, -1/+5Well, time to break em in.
- omgthebest, on 08/02/2008, -9/+0
- smilgy, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1I hate you.
- browntiger, on 08/02/2008, -4/+24Evil socialized medicine! What did they just do...
With our USA good ol medicine for getting his arms back he would have to pay with his legs.- thegreatgazoo, on 08/02/2008, -3/+0At least you'd be fed, unlike 30,000 people who have been starving in DHS hospitals http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/health/article-10395 ...
Or did you just miss that link on the right side of the page?- bxblox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Having your food delivered from an outside source daily: $20-$40
American hospital stay daily: $arm-$leg
- bxblox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Having your food delivered from an outside source daily: $20-$40
- rhabd0mancer, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3I doubt that any health insurance company would cover a surgery like this. They only cover metal hooks and wooden prosthetics.
- thegreatgazoo, on 08/02/2008, -3/+0At least you'd be fed, unlike 30,000 people who have been starving in DHS hospitals http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/health/article-10395 ...
- 1807, on 08/02/2008, -2/+36Ok...simple question, if he jerks off with teenage hands..that aren't his...does that make him a pedophile?
- Mikejoneswho5, on 08/02/2008, -2/+9oh my god you've gotta be kidding me.
i was thinking the exact same thing. - badger454, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5No. It just makes him gay.
- pault107, on 08/02/2008, -0/+6As soon as I saw the headline I knew someone was going to make that comment.
- Djjcj, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1Only if he puts nailpolish on.
- Mikejoneswho5, on 08/02/2008, -2/+9oh my god you've gotta be kidding me.
- simplistics06, on 08/02/2008, -2/+16In other news a teen thought to be brain dead wakes up to find that doctors had amputated his arms.
- thegrantman, on 08/02/2008, -7/+1This man spent the next 6 months compulsively masturbating.
- scabbers, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15"Now try to keep THESE ones out of the thresher"
- d4v312345, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0This made me laugh.
- LongBong, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1=P
- johnroth, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1If he loses them again he doesn't deserve to get another new set.
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -3/+4Harvesting body parts from living (though brain dead) people worries me.
Brain dead humans (even babies) can be kept alive indefinitely and continue to grow.
Causing brain death can be done intentionally by oxygen starvation with little suspicion.
People will pay huge money for body parts. Particullary the dying wealthy.
Mix greed, desperation and the means, and you have the recipe for dark endevours.- macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Pretty much all transplant organs are harvested from brain-dead bodies - tissue death starts to set in pretty much as soon as the heart shuts down. It is grizzly, yes, but this is, in fact, the norm when it comes to organ transplants, rather than the exception.
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2It's not quite the only way to go. There's always the choice of not going there...
It's kind of treating of symptoms for fatal ailments (which we are already doing)
Thing like breeding infertility, diabetes, heart defects, syndromes, etc back into the gene pool aren't what we really should be doing.
Humanity is stupid like that. Just because we can doesn't mean we should.
Profit guarentee's the choice that will be made. At least for the rich. - macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -2/+3You're arguing for eugenics. You complain about medical ethics, and then you turn around and support eugenics. *facepalm*
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2You're trying too hard to stick things in boxes you think you understand, and are conditioned too. Try thinking outside the box.
It's not so much medical ethics but business ethics for my first post. The temptation to do wrong (farm humans for saleable parts) for the purpose of profit. Medical ethics has little to do with it.
I don't support eugenics. That is effectively selective breeding. I was suggestive maybe in some case we shouldn't interfere which is something quite different. Evolution.
The current medical approach is closer to Eugenics. Except instead of artifically including/excluding genes from the pool, we help propogate fatal genetic flaws through artifical means. We de-evolve.
There is the selection criteria of wealth but that hardly makes for medical ethics either. Ironically the wealthy will become those most likely to carry through their genetic flaws. - macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Artificial means? We evolved brains capable of preventing fatal illnesses. The entire reason our brains evolved the way they did was so that we could adapt and respond to our environment without having to rely on evolution. Case in point - humans exist in nearly every habitat on the planet. Genetically, we're not even different enough to be considered different races. How did we do it? Because our brains allowed us to solve problems that our biology couldn't. We figured out how to adapt, how to make use of local food sources, how to build different shelters for different environments, how to make different types of clothing to protect us from the elements, etc. The very reason we are so successful as a species is that we have evolved to solve problems that our biology cannot.
- Myztry, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1"The reason our brains evolved..."
Becoming too sucessful is not a trait unique to humans.
The same thing happens with locusts (and many others). They also form Plagues, consume all resources and eventually destroy their environment leading to their demise. Because they can.
Humans are not overly intelligent. We are driven by base instincts much like most animals. Things like selfishness, fear, hate, greed, etc power our actions. Intelligence provides the means but rarely the motive.
If anything, our outstanding trait is communication. It allows us to build up our knowledge and collaborate to achieve things.
Hilter was quite intelligent as were those under his command. Humans have a history of doing things that intelligent beings should not. Having the means doesn't not justify the end.
The simple fact we can still doesn't mean we should. For when humanity is out of control, Chaos ensues, and our 'intelligence' becomes our own worst enemy.
On a side note: When people say 'we' can do this or that. Generally they mean a collective of other people who they have no relationship with, can. Outside of money anyway, which provides the link, and the moral compass.
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2It's not quite the only way to go. There's always the choice of not going there...
- aceallways, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Reminds me of the island.
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Yes. Except they were conscious clones.
That in turn reminded me of "watership down" where rabbits were bred and the 'lucky' ones got to go on a vacation, never to be seen again. - DarkDx, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1I heard they had two directors, one for half a movie and michael bay for the other half lol.
- Myztry, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Yes. Except they were conscious clones.
- RaulMuadDib, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Have you read the Dune prequels by Brian Herbert where they were harvesting organs from missing soldiers and were kept alive until all their organs were gone? Scariest crap I have read.
- macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4Unfortunately, that's pretty much the only way to go. Pretty much all transplant organs are harvested from brain-dead bodies - tissue death starts to set in pretty much as soon as the heart shuts down. It is grizzly, yes, but this is, in fact, the norm when it comes to organ transplants, rather than the exception.
- CJHtxGeek, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1I hope I live to see cyberbrain implants alongside more cybernetic enhancements beyond the purely organic, absolutely amazing what's been accomplished in past 50 years.
- RyomaNagare, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Really remarkable how this technology has advanced since 1998.
here is hope this guy has the correct profile, and does take his drugs, else he will end like Clint Hallam, whom didn't want to take the inmuno suppresor drugs, and reject the hand that was transplanted. - slartibartphast, on 08/02/2008, -1/+11Gotta hand it to those doctors. They're the first surgeons to win the arms race.
- 298104506, on 08/02/2008, -2/+0GOODI The heartbreak for the surgeon is that s/he knows what to do, but does not have the manipulative skill or speed to carry it out in time. (I have heard this lament from my father many times)
Robotic surgeons and nanotech devices will be able to act under the surgeons directions and perform miracles. Horribly damaged skin and internal tissues will be able to be rebuilt...it will be like magic when compared to what can be done today. - Devrdander, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Flash Back to Body Parts from the early 90's, wow that movie was horrible...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101492/ - zengothicmonk37, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0"Hey Richter....see you at the party!!!" - Total Recall (Arnold to Michael Ironside character)
- steve220585, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0haha, i see what you did there. dugg+
- Sharky35, on 08/02/2008, -5/+1So if he jerks off... would that mean he's gay?
Or even a pedophile? - fx666, on 08/02/2008, -3/+1I want my detachable penis!
- archer104, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Guy: I'm sorry honey, I want to, but I left my penis at home.
Girl: Can't you rent one?
Guy: ...you are one sick *****.
- archer104, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Guy: I'm sorry honey, I want to, but I left my penis at home.
- riptor666, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1That's awesome that means that those of us who want claws to look like evil geniuses can finally live the dream.
- keami, on 08/02/2008, -2/+4"The first limb transplant, carried out in Lyon, France, in September 1998, gave Australian Clint Hallam a new hand. He had lost his 16 years earlier in an accident with a circular saw. Although the surgery was successful, Mr Hallam later said he had become ‘mentally detached’ from the hand and it was removed at his request in February 2001."
That's ***** up. What a waste. I hope this guy can deal with it better.- qazxsw2, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0That can happen even with your own limbs !
http://www.c3.hu/othercontent/linkbudapest/site980 ...
taken from http://www.oliversacks.com/hat.htm - minigig, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1I was awful to read. nobody talks like that in the real world. that's how 80's soap opera actors talk.
- qazxsw2, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0That can happen even with your own limbs !
- flangepiece, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Point of note, The Island may have been a rip-off of a most excellent book called Spares by Michael Marshall Smith. Check the controversy stuff in wikipedia.
The Island sucked, and sucked bad. Spares on the other hand, was a frickin' excellent Sci-Fi novel, as are all his others.
http://www.michaelmarshallsmith.com/booksfold/mars ...- flangepiece, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2*****, this was meant to be in reply to the thread about The Island above. Sorry. *hangs head*
- MovieQuest, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2If he gets two arms, and the surgery costs an arm and a leg, four minus two plus one plus one minus two - - is...
- Buzzpatrol, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Great! Only problem is that I expect the U.S. legal system to prosecute him for being a child molester the first time he jerks off. His problems are not over!
- IceOfDiamonds, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3how ironic would it be if the teens mother saw the man in the street and said "look at the guns on that guy"?
- lohphat, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Puttin on da RIIITTZZ!!!
- jimv1983, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1FTA:"...having the arms of a youth 35 years his junior."
What does that even mean "35 years his junior". I've heard that term before does that mean like 35 years younger than him? - jellygraph, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Um. For him, masturbation must take on a new dimension.
- Madfulluh, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0It is rare that people get tickets to the gun show twice.
- AmazingSteve, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0Man gets arms of a teenager. Soon finds that he can't stop masturbating or playing video games.
- Ortheos, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Now he can jerk off more copiously and for longer periods of time. Those arms/hands are energetic and quick.
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